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Old 04-08-2011, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
I thought you were a Swinger, D? You seem to have excellent clarity on both!


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Old 04-11-2011, 11:44 AM
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Homer Kelley defined hitters and swingers by whether they used drive loading or drag loading, not single wrist action. That's a component compatible with hitting, but doesn't define a hitter.





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Old 05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
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First of all I have no intention of telling you what you do or don't do- Just something interesting to turn over in the incubator.

I am speaking only to total motion- I agree that you can absolulty hit anything with basic and even aquired motion. '

However my main point goes back to O.B. Left comments about loading North South and standard wrist action- If you turn your hands to the plane could you still Drive Load on plane? Or over the plane?

Is a 4 barrel pattern always a hit? Once you build up all that CF could you over power it?
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Here's something Ive been noodling over in regard to Hitting vs Swinging. Look down at your grips butt end. Divide it into compass points North/South and East/West.
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Being a former orienteerer I like the compass analogy, mr Left!

If you start a compass thread I migh produce an argument that you can push north and pull west at the same time. And perhaps both as a swinger and as a hitter.

The hitter exists. And it is very different from swinging. Certainly different enough to mess up your game if you start to mix the two without knowing what you're doing. But I don't agree that the hitter doesn't use CF and doesn't drag. Unless the hitter is a hacker she will drag and she will use CF to get the job done...
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post

If you start a compass thread I migh produce an argument that you can push north and pull west at the same time. And perhaps both as a swinger and as a hitter.


I think you could as well but would you want to? Assuming those forces are pointed in different directions.

Learning to load properly and delay release can provide all the power you need, I believe.

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Old 05-02-2011, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by coolstv88 View Post
I am speaking only to total motion- I agree that you can absolulty hit anything with basic and even aquired motion. '

However my main point goes back to O.B. Left comments about loading North South and standard wrist action- If you turn your hands to the plane could you still Drive Load on plane? Or over the plane?

Is a 4 barrel pattern always a hit? Once you build up all that CF could you over power it?


In both Hitting and Swinging the Left Hand lays flat on the Inclined Plane at Top. You can Drive Load from there for sure. Drive LOAD, Load the Right Elbow and the non rotated lag pressure point, the index finger. Load it and then sneak it down to its Delayed Release point and them blammo. Right Arm Throw a side armed throwing motion at the Aiming Point. Like skipping stones it'll feel more cross line than Tracing. The Thrusting on the aft you mention does push the Left Hand off the Inclined Plane #3 firing and #2 as well at the same time.

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Old 05-02-2011, 01:38 AM
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I would probably argue that all golfers push north and pull west. You need at least two forces in different direction to power a circular or quasi circular motion...

Swingers and hitters push north from their right shoulder. But hitters add some *independant* right hand thrust since there's an active straightening of the right arm going on. And both pull west as long as the shoulders are turning.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:46 PM
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I really like this topic. Perhaps it needs it's own thread and some more definition so were talking apples to apples. Divergent forces and how best to focus them is critical to Alinged Release or the Throws.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I really like this topic. Perhaps it needs it's own thread and some more definition so were talking apples to apples. Divergent forces and how best to focus them is critical to Alinged Release or the Throws.
I'm with you on that, O.B.
As my revolutionary/evolutionary relationship with TGM and LBG matures (and Kev, too), I find myself working more and more from both sides rather than one side or the other. There are times I Swing a driver and there are times I have the feeling I need to Hit the driver. It goes for other clubs and shots as well.
Due to the coaching gig and the recent tuba work I have little time to be on the course, but if I have to demonstrate something with the kids or get to play three holes with them, I am finding I have so many more possibilities now that I have a little understanding of the components, etc. When they see it and when they then do it, they become believers.
I don't know how I could exist in golf without this stuff. It certainly would not be nearly as interesting, say nothing of successful.
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