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Old 03-24-2011, 04:29 PM
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Drive loading question
So I had a pretty good year last year using my version of Brian Gay’s pattern. Distance was ok (this should improve w/ a driver change from 9.5 to 10.5)but very accurate, and laser irons were the order of the day. My putting sucks so the scores and hcdp could have even been lower.
This spring I have been trying to build on what I did last year instead of my usual pattern hopping. I had been working on the “Downswing Waggle” in Yodas Alignment Golf video. In particular how he has you feeling like you are on the medievel torture device called “the rack” You got extensor action pushing to the right you got hula stretching your lower body to the left, and then you trace on the DS w/ your hands and rt shoulder. I am loving this, but my question is, is this drive loading? Im trying to understand what they mean when they say you are loading against your backswing, or something like that. I know for sure I am not float or drag loading. I do know Im smacking the sh*t out of the ball w/ my rt hand/arm.

As long as my alignments are good, use angled hinging and trace, the only thing that seems to screw it up is over acceleration. Whatever Im doing now is just rediculously easy to repeat. Any description of what the pivot/body do in a drive load procedure would be appreciated....please direct to "chapter/verse" if possible.

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:32 PM
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Driveloading is a prodedure where you use your right hand to actively reduce the lag between your shoulder turn and your hands. With drag loading this happens passively. You then only use your right hand to structurally support the hand path and to sustain the lag pressure at impact.

Also, driveloading is associated with a pp#3 pressure that doesn't rotate back and down again and an elbow location at the top that supports this - a right forearm at right angles to the inclined plane. I aims down the swing plane at all tinmes. Drag loading is usually accosiated with pp #3 rotation. At the top of the back swing, the pp#3 pressure and the elbow is more under the shaft - and thus, the right forearm is at right angles to a horizontal plane.

Third, driveloading is associated with angled hinging while drag loading is associated with dual horizontal hinging.

There are variations and exceptions to two and three above, but the first one is the fundamental difference between the two.

The amount of pressure you feel in your right hand at impact doesn't necessarily differentiate between driveloading and drag loading.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:19 AM
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Bernt,

You said:

"Driveloading is a prodedure where you use your right hand to actively reduce the lag between your shoulder turn and your hands" Would this be the same thing as extensor action, or do you mean you are moving your hands toward impact while your shoulders you are still swinging back, which would create the stretch? Maybe like Lynn demonstrates in the Alignment Golf video doing the DS waggle.

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Old 03-25-2011, 11:49 AM
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The tool is the same as you use in extencior action.

But with driveloading you are moving your hands towards impact with a right arm thrust in addition to moving your hands towards impact with your shoulder turn and the rest of the body. If you fail to align you pp#3 pressure (right index finger) for a down plane thrusting effort there's a huge risk that you will thrust the club face open through impact. You can also get over the top, create a pull hook and produce a myriad of nasty results.

When you drag load you do not depend on aligning the pp#3 pressure down plane early in the down swing. You rotat pp#3 to give room for more rotation in the back swing and you use a pitch elbow in the down swing to save as much rotation for later as possible. You're basically just pulling the grip end of the club down plane and you let CF release the club. The throw-out. As I'm sure you have seen Yoda demonstrate, you use extencior action to keep the left side tense. As long as you manage to keep this tention high your pivot will swing your arms and club with high leverage.

As the club itself starts to release you use extencior action to resist slowing down of the hands. This will feel quite similar to driveloading and the effort is no less, but there is perhaps a sensation that you're pushing against a wall and not pushing something that actually moves. And you also use extencior action to limit the slowdown that is caused by the collision with the ball and by then I believe there's no real distinction between driveloading and drag loading. So the right hand is doing a lot of work also in a dragging proccedure. Just not in the Newtonian sense of the word. A lot of effort goes into it but the effort that produces motion in itself. It just sets you up to maximise the output from your pivot.

I hope this was more clarifying than confusing. There certainly others here who can bring the message home without writing a full thesis about it.
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Old 03-25-2011, 01:18 PM
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I gotcha, good stuff B. I will let your 2 posts digest fully

Ive heard that when hitting you may want to apply more pressure on #1 (while still monitoring #3) Richie3Jack said the feel is like a "palm strike" as you drive #1 past low point
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:11 PM
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Yep. Better to be gentle with the pp#3 pressure early. It's a big show stopper if you lose pp#1 pressure.Basically a throw away. And that can happen if you you pp#3 press too much and too early.
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