I'd like the court to recognize that the honourable D, has added some wordage that doesnt exist within my 6th edition of the book.
Please, strike from the record everything after "Backstroke"...... commencing with "ensure that the ..." This is a horrible mis representation of Homers actual text . I can only assume for his own benefit, to make a point. Shame. The court can only wonder where else this sort of thing has happened in the past!
I suggest a total audit of all Daryls previous posts and I elect Mike O. and Bucket as co auditors.
Let it be so.
D, how can the right arm push on the way back when its on the front of the club? Seems like a pull to me.
You're watchful and tough, however I wasn't "Quoting". I was "explaining".
"D, how can the right arm push on the way back when its on the front of the club? Seems like a pull to me."
When I try to Straighten my Right Arm with Triceps muscle, I call it "Push".
You're watchful and tough, however I wasn't "Quoting". I was "explaining".
"D, how can the right arm push on the way back when its on the front of the club? Seems like a pull to me."
When I try to Straighten my Right Arm with Triceps muscle, I call it "Push".
I'll add a third perspective: Lift . . .
As Daryl has stated, when the right triceps is active, it pushes and gives width to the Stroke. As O.B. has stated, this Extensor Action pulls on the left arm, stretching it and likewise providing structure to the Stroke.
But, this pushing/pulling Action (Non-Accelerating Thrust / 6-C-0 #2) does not move the Left Arm. For that to happen, the right arm and its right elbow action (bending and straightening) mustlift (and lower) the left (7-3). This is an On Plane Action, of course, but it is nevertheless a lift.
Otherwise, even when structured, the left arm and club (Primary Lever Assembly) will be simply drug around the body (the "disruptive Shoulder Turn Takeaway" / 10-6-B). Thus, it will be hopelessly Under Plane and therefore misaligned in relation to the Baseline of the Plane and the ball that rests upon it.
This mistake can be, indeed must be, corrected by realigning at the Top, as happens in the Compensated Strokes of even fine players. But, why bother with all that when a simple solution is available? Namely, use an On Plane (Zone 3), Right Forearm Pickup (Zone 2) in conjunction with a perfect Pivot (Zone 1).
My efforts at keeping the left wrist flat and extensor action combined with my intensity always made it difficult to swing without excessive tension. That as a result kept me from experiencing "throw out". I ended up with a corrupted CF swinging procedure with hitting and steering elements. Therefore I had trouble releasing and getting to a full finish. Greg believes the arms just hang and if he lifts your arms up at address and it pulls your thorax and head up he feels you have to much tension. I think that is a good concept. However extensor action is mentioned so often it is essential to a good procedure. For me I have to guard against to much EA and rigidity. Also I feel that although other thoughts and ideas can be helpful it is important to commit to one set of ideas for success. I am guilty of tinkering with my swing to much. So for me I am committed to the "literalists" because I feel that will work best for me. So I am trying to eliminate everything I can. There is a time to get off the forum's, stop looking at the videos, give up on the golf publications close your mind. For this to work you have to have chosen the right procedures. I think I am on the right track
My efforts at keeping the left wrist flat and extensor action combined with my intensity always made it difficult to swing without excessive tension. That as a result kept me from experiencing "throw out". I ended up with a corrupted CF swinging procedure with hitting and steering elements. Therefore I had trouble releasing and getting to a full finish. Greg believes the arms just hang and if he lifts your arms up at address and it pulls your thorax and head up he feels you have to much tension. I think that is a good concept. However extensor action is mentioned so often it is essential to a good procedure. For me I have to guard against to much EA and rigidity.
It is true that Extensor Action can be exaggerated into an immobilizing fault. However, that does not obviate its purpose; namely, to provide a "structural rigidity" that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stresses created by a powerful golf stroke, especially at the Top and through Impact.
To achieve maximum Zone 2 Power, the Arms (and with them the Club) must swing freely from the Shoulders (and not be bound to and drug around by them). Also, the Wrists must remain flexible to perform their Release functions (Uncock and Roll). However, that does not mean that the Power Package Structure (which these Components and their Loading collectively comprise) should be "loose" or, worse yet, "flimsy". Or that the Hands should be robbed of the firm Grip necessary to control Clubface alignments.
Just as there are good and bad cholesterols, so are there good and bad tensions in the Golf Stroke. Differentiating the two distills the champion.
It is true that Extensor Action can be exaggerated into an immobilizing fault. However, that does not obviate its necessary purpose; namely, to provide a "structural rigidity" that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stresses created by a powerful golf stroke, especially at the Top and through Impact.
To achieve maximum Zone 2 Power, the Arms (and with them the Club) must swing freely from the Shoulders (and not be bound to and drug around by them). Also, the Wrists must remain flexible to perform their Release functions (Uncock and Roll). However, that does not mean that the Power Package Structure (which these Components and their Loading collectively comprise) should be "loose" or, worse yet, "flimsy". Or that the Hands should be robbed of the firm Grip necessary to control Clubface alignments.
Just as there are good and bad cholesterols, so are there good and bad tensions in the Golf Stroke. Differentiating the two distills the champion.
It has never been made clear to me which tricept muscle('s) are active for EA.
Just as bicept curles can be performed pronate or supinate so and use DIFFERENT bicept muscle, A tricept push down can be done pronate or supinate and use DIFFERENT tricept muscle. One way creates no control but great tension the other creates "structure" and frees the wrists and power package from tension. Which does what and how is EA properly applied. This requires more description than "stretching" . HOW not WHAT.? I believe this is KEY.
It has never been made clear to me which tricept muscle('s) are active for EA.
Just as bicept curles can be performed pronate or supinate so and use DIFFERENT bicept muscle, A tricept push down can be done pronate or supinate and use DIFFERENT tricept muscle. One way creates no control but great tension the other creates "structure" and frees the wrists and power package from tension. Which does what and how is EA properly applied. This requires more description than "stretching" . HOW not WHAT.? I believe this is KEY.
Uh . . .
How about . . .
Stretch the left arm in the direction it is pointing?
That's what should be done, and it is what I do.
Is there a specific right triceps muscle that does this? If so, please spare me . . .
Stretch the left arm in the direction it is pointing?
That's what should be done, and it is what I do.
Is there a specific right triceps muscle that does this? If so, please spare me . . .
I don't want to know!
I just saw this answer.
Pardon me, I did not think there were any stupid questions. I was wrong. I will print this answer and paste it into the front cover of my book. This was an honest question. I will not say more.
Lynn, how, if at all, does the amount of EA vary with club?
Originally Posted by Yoda
It is true that Extensor Action can be exaggerated into an immobilizing fault. However, that does not obviate its purpose; namely, to provide a "structural rigidity" that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stresses created by a powerful golf stroke, especially at the Top and through Impact.
To achieve maximum Zone 2 Power, the Arms (and with them the Club) must swing freely from the Shoulders (and not be bound to and drug around by them). Also, the Wrists must remain flexible to perform their Release functions (Uncock and Roll). However, that does not mean that the Power Package Structure (which these Components and their Loading collectively comprise) should be "loose" or, worse yet, "flimsy". Or that the Hands should be robbed of the firm Grip necessary to control Clubface alignments.
Just as there are good and bad cholesterols, so are there good and bad tensions in the Golf Stroke. Learning to differentiate between the two is one hallmark of a champion.
I would guess longer clubs need more EA, which could mean I am completely wrong.
Hey Bear. If we could take your mind for detail and share it with my "big-picture" perspectives, we could be insightful and entertaining most of the time.
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