City,
How did you like the tournament and what did you learn today?
My GSEB John Savage and his lovely wife Jean had us to dinner last night and they made a wonderful salmon and salad with asparagus. My lovely wife made a home-made amazing chocolate mousse.
Today is our one year wedding anniversary. Not only can my wife cook but she can think. She takes golf lessons with me and keeps a wonderful home, while being a national award winning elem. teacher.
I have learned a lot about life from her and a lot of golf in this last year. My GAP hcp. is now an even 15 down from 15.3 last revision. Last night, after our dinner, I had to ask my GSEB about driving the primary lever, and he showed me why he swings and how he swings and shoots below par at the age of 72.
I had been stuck on Lynn's "Finishing Swivel" tape now for about 2 days. I knew I didn't get it after watching it about 10 times. John is a swinger and while showing him my newfound Extensor Action, he pushed my left artificial hip back and my Finish (not Russian) Swivel ( I crack myself up)appeared!!!!
OOOOOOOBABEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOBABYOOO! Calling Dr. Welby. Calling Dr. Welby.
I had been driving my Prim. Lever but holding the swivel until the end of both arms straight. In other words, I was preparing to roll too late!!!! I was manufacturing an artificial timing that my body did not understand.
That's why I could shoot an 81 twice and follow it up with a 93 or 94. As Lynn told VJ "The golf ball is a blabbermouth and it does not lie!" On days when I forgot to hold the Finishing Swivel off, I simply worried about my chipping and putting with Basic Motion or Acquired Motion. On days when I held FS off, I worried about everything!
Hello Mr. Par!!!!!!
My Mrs. is getting several gifts including her first set of clubs, pink I think! Her swing looks better than mine!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-12-2010 at 09:41 AM.
WOW City. Lookie what can happen when you use a wonderful system rather than a method, band-aids, a wing and a prayer!
Great job my friend!!!
Kevin
What do you do when you get out of the car, load your bag on the cart and realize you have about five minutes to tee off on a 203 yard uphill par 3, trees left and sand and trees right?
I practiced swinginging slowly and keeping a stationary head and taut EA. No worries! 16 degree rescue hybrid (Thanks, Jerry) to front fringe, chip on a rope to 1 foot, par put, easy peasy.
And then I got the rabid hooks! FORE LEFT!
I'll spar you the details of the next 8 holes and 46 shots behind every tree and sand trap on the left hand side of the course.
I adjusted everything, including my bra and found no help!! But two little bread crumbs kept appearing on the path.
My chips, loaded with EA, were turning my almost certain TRIPLES into pretty remarkable DOUBLES. I hit a few poles from 20-30 yards away (10 yard deflections, of course). I dialed the chips back to Basic Motions. "Every stroke, even a putt, has a start, top and finish," according to Yoda.
So what was causing the hooks and pull hooks?
I was using an angle hinge. I tried my usual sweeping downstroke (driving the Primary Lever). I tried dropping the right elbow in from top and that gave some relief from the hook. I kept practicing the Basic Motion on the tee. I gave in to the temptation to use Acquired Motion off the tee with the 3 wood and hybrid. And, chances at par started to appear.
More Basic and I started to realize that pp# 4 was a great comfort and very, very dependable! I WAS COMING OVER THE TOP!!!!
SOLUTION!!! Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy!Slow and heavy! Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop!Drag the mop! Drag the heavy, wet mop!Drag the heavy, wet mop!Drag the heavy, wet mop!Drag the heavy, wet mop!
PP # 4 + Heavy, wet mop = 0 hooks, and 0 draws!
Hole 10, 3 over (no insights, lots of trees!) Hole 11, 3 over (hook disappears on pitch and I balloon a wedge 30 yards short, putt with EA into next county.) Holes 12 and 13 (# 1 hcp and # 6 hcp) "Hello Mr. Par! Holes 14-15, 2 over (I had to give up the hard EA on putts and dialed that back as I could not feel the line of the putt. So, I discovered a gentle EA putt and started burning edges. Using EA on putts makes the sweetspot terrifyingly powerful! A silly little 3 inch swing will send the ball 10 feet through breaks, in and out of cups and almost into the guy tending the pin 20 yards away! ). Hole 16 and 17, 4 over. (Pushing the ball right into trees and traps, ugh.) Hole # 18, 2 over ( I got greedy and dumb, and I shot right at the biggest sucker pin in the world! The 8 iron hit the par 5 elevated green and bounced straight left down the hill. Shortsided in 4 inch deep rough! ) I shot a 46 that should've been lower.
We had a little 9 hole skins game which followed. Two club champs (champ and "B" flight, 3 hcp. and 14 hcp.) and an 18 hcp who shot an 80 in the morning round. On our third "9", I was 7 over, and won/tied 4 holes.
On plane with pp # 4 is the plan!!!!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-18-2010 at 02:34 PM.
Holy buckets City, that is quite an adventure. Ain't golf fun?
I am looking forward to your visit to the wonderful humidity we have going on here.
I have a problem that I have to conguer if I'm to move on in G.O.L.F.
I have covered a lot of material since March of this year in hopes of discovering a "perfect fit" that would maximize my physical gifts and ignore my physical limitations. My emotional problems, well, God alone can sort those out.
I have discovered several combinations of components that work to some extent.
Swinging works for me as indicated by scoring multiple 41's when I committed to those components while competing.
1) TSP
2) Horizontal Hinge for driver and long clubs, angle hinge for everything else
3) Impact fix
4) Roll back hip back steadily w/EA
5) send # 4 pp back up steadily w/EA
6) stable head
I drive the ball so well, even using a 3/4 swing speed that I stay in every hole. 75% of swing force applied correctly helped me shoot 6 over on our back 9, today. Feeling the heaviness of the putter really worked, too.
The front nine was a disaster at a 49. When I got my hip back I tried to drive my shoulder down but came OTT. It wasn't until posting on the front leg that my Ott disappeared.
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-22-2010 at 12:26 PM.
City, I think it is very unique that you are acquiring such an understanding of TGM in such a short time. I don't think I am on par with your gains.
I do have to share a big breakthrough today, however. One of the kids on our high school team (11th gr. next year) that I badgered all season long about how high he hit the ball and how he needed to stay under the stratosphere in order to compete with the better players. I just could not get him to buy into forward shaft lean and hands ahead, etc. He thought I was nuts, I think. Today, at our summer golf school he was swinging a 3 wood on the range and It appeared he never had the ball in the same place in his stance two times in a row. It went everywhere on the range including dead right into a 4-some on the 7th hole.
This led to a discussion about swing bottom, ball placement, educated hands, forward leaning shaft, etc.
We started with the SW. Crisp shot after crisp shot ensued. 9 iron the same. 6 iron, easy swing like the SW and it just rocketed toward the target straight over the 150 yd. sign to not far short of the 200. Hybrid was the same. 3 woods were majestic. Drivers had a boring trajectory and had just a hint of a draw. I had tingles. He had the biggest grin.
I hope he can hold on to it until the next time I see him. Heck, I got so excited I tried to call Kevin and let him know what was going on. He knows the kid.
Although not everything in the golf stroke is a chain reaction, the Pivot certainly, is a chain reaction. Once the Action starts, it's going to react as it's "aligned" to react and no amount of effort is going to change the outcome very much. But a lot of energy can be wasted trying overcome mis-alignments which makes the "swing" a labor intensive and frustrating and a tiring thing and the more you thrust the worse it gets.
We rely totally on this chain reaction to produce the same results every time. When we hit fades and draws or straight shots we trust that the Pivots chain reaction will be so dependable that minor adjustment can produce different lines of compression on the ball.
I can understand why so much instruction and methodology is focused on the Pivot. I'll bet you, that you can go to the practice range, and without pivoting, hit balls with only your arms and hands to a green 25 yards away without any problems. If you can do that, then Zone 2 and 3 are fine (for now). Then, your problems are Zone 1 and you should concentrate all of your efforts on building a solid and perfect Zone 1.
The word "Pivot" is used 126 times in about 230 pages of the 6th Edition.
Although not everything in the golf stroke is a chain reaction, the Pivot certainly, is a chain reaction. Once the Action starts, it's going to react as it's "aligned" to react and no amount of effort is going to change the outcome very much. But a lot of energy can be wasted trying overcome mis-alignments which makes the "swing" a labor intensive and frustrating and a tiring thing and the more you thrust the worse it gets.
We rely totally on this chain reaction to produce the same results every time. When we hit fades and draws or straight shots we trust that the Pivots chain reaction will be so dependable that minor adjustment can produce different lines of compression on the ball.
I can understand why so much instruction and methodology is focused on the Pivot. I'll bet you, that you can go to the practice range, and without pivoting, hit balls with only your arms and hands to a green 25 yards away without any problems. If you can do that, then Zone 2 and 3 are fine (for now). Then, your problems are Zone 1 and you should concentrate all of your efforts on building a solid and perfect Zone 1.
The word "Pivot" is used 126 times in about 230 pages of the 6th Edition.
Daryl, Kevin, Jerry, OB, when you guys have a bad day does that mean you only have 3 brilliant insights?
Daryl, that is right. I regularly practice with various clubs using EA and RFT punching balls to the base of markers between 100 and 150 yards away and I hit my spot about 50% and my misses are all in 2 putt range. It is lots of fun, too, esp. with longer clubs.
Your focus on pivot therefore, makes perfect sense. I realized last night, too, that my sweep motion only worked because it was all arms from the top and my shoulder was very still. I mean still!!!! I can hit a 16 degree three wood to a 203 yard pin straight from RFT by driving the primary lever and pp#1 to the baseline straight down. That is a damn useful shot on my course, too. (5 closest to the pins this season).
However, the minute I try to drive the right shoulder down, I can hook a lob wedge 40 yards! It is pissing me off. Yesterday, I simply rocked the TSP back and through and drove/rolled the ball 250+ on two occasions using an Angle Hinge. So what's the problem? No damn precision! Why can't I turn my 200 yard and in sweet little reverse RFT into a 300 yard f'n drive. It doesn't make sense.
I watched Brian Gay for a couple of hours, recently, at Aronomink. I could pick him up with not a lot of effort (I'm not talking about the kind of pick-ups they do in N.H). I lift 8th graders into corners after fights, daily. He can drive the ball 290 on purpose and he hardly moves! I don't mean any offense here, but 99% of tour pros are not lasting one week in my job and they are 30 years younger than I am. So WTF!???
I know they heave great balance and timing. Ok. Do you know how much balance and timing it takes to dodge an upset 260 lb. 8th grader and restrain him or her? My kids would make Phil Mickleson cry before lunch! They'd use Dustin Johnson for kindling and Tiger would become somebody's girlfriend, and he would not like it.
Sorry for the vent.
Ok, I'll work on the pivot, Daryl, ALOT! Maybe a new driver? A haircut? 50 more pushups a day? Flossing between meals, perhaps? I mean if Yoda can drive a ball 250 + on a line, it has to be technique (no offense, Lynn). That underpitch looks interesting...but it is a reaction to the pivot. I get it. Thanks!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-22-2010 at 10:53 PM.
Wow, that's a great Rant. You're right. If you wrestled half of those guys, they'd cry in two minutes.
If you can hit a ball 150 yards with only your arms and Hands then when you put a Pivot on it you should hit the ball out of sight. Especially with that Bionic hip of yours. You'll be teaching during the week and competing in golf tournaments on the weekends.
Go for it.
Hey,,, go back and find that post where Ted Fort was showing us his student who is hitting the ball 300 yards. He taught him when he had a 105 mph driver speed and I think he now has a 120 mph swing. Ask Ted how much of that was Pivot technique.
You realize, don't you, that despite our native Midwest brilliance..
Originally Posted by Daryl
Wow, that's a great Rant. You're right. If you wrestled half of those guys, they'd cry in two minutes.
If you can hit a ball 150 yards with only your arms and Hands then when you put a Pivot on it you should hit the ball out of sight. Especially with that Bionic hip of yours. You'll be teaching during the week and competing in golf tournaments on the weekends.
Go for it.
Hey,,, go back and find that post where Ted Fort was showing us his student who is hitting the ball 300 yards. He taught him when he had a 105 mph driver speed and I think he now has a 120 mph swing. Ask Ted how much of that was Pivot technique.
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EA loaded RFT to the top with TSP (they happen together) and rolling my ankles and the left hand is on plane. Or the Marching drill, or rolling the back hip back...
Reverse by driving the primary lever (steady head no shoulder) or roll the ankles, or roll the knees, or load pp# 4, or drive the right elbow to the hip, or plant the left leg and then roll the underhand pitch!
By keeping a steady head and not moving my nose, the ball goes where it is told to go.
I can hardly wait until I see the TEd Fort stuff. BTW, I ordered the address videos ....amazing! I am now putting a red dot on my right thumb, my forehead, the downstairs toilet paper dispenser and my Schnauzer, Anna Louisa. My wife will not let me put a red dot on her but the 87 year old widow next door didn't seem to mind!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
City,
Interesting. I also have a dot on my golf glove but it is on the "snoose box" (Minnesota clinical term) to remind me to Cock instead of roll back which just kills me.
Can't wait to pick your brain with Kevin on the range. I'll try to find my way around the red dots.
Many thanks to Daryl and Kev for TSP help.
I crack myself up)appeared!!!!
I was manufacturing an artificial timing that my body did not understand. 
On days when I forgot to hold the Finishing Swivel off, I simply worried about my chipping and putting with Basic Motion or Acquired Motion. On days when I held FS off, I worried about everything!
FORE LEFT!
I hit a few poles from 20-30 yards away (10 yard deflections, of course). I dialed the chips back to Basic Motions.
"Every stroke, even a putt, has a start, top and finish," according to Yoda. 
And, chances at par started to appear.
Holes 14-15, 2 over (I had to give up the hard EA on putts and dialed that back as I could not feel the line of the putt. So, I discovered a gentle EA putt and started burning edges. Using EA on putts makes the sweetspot terrifyingly powerful! A silly little 3 inch swing will send the ball 10 feet through breaks, in and out of cups and almost into the guy tending the pin 20 yards away! 
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