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OB,

That anlysis makes perfect sense.

Perhaps you can answer a question for me:

If your using the swinging procedure, and taking the club back to "end", under an Arc/straight delivery path (as stated in the swingers section of Capter 12), once you get on the "spoke" straight line path what is the specific thrust and or aiming point direction after the hands pass the point where they no longer point at the ball? (obviously, they only point at the ball so long).

Or, more simply put, is it actually the hands going in a straight line toward the ball, or the clubhead using lag and monitoring with the #3 pressure point toward the inside aft portion of the ball?

what s the visual line after you have taken it toward the ball?

This is a problem IMO with how the machine is taught . . . the hands don't go in a straight line to the ball for very long . . . that is going to produce off plane mechanics. If your intention is to move the hands in a straight line effort straight to the ball . . . think of how the club is going to respond . . . if you pull the handle and hands out the clubhead is going to lay down and stay behind . . . the handle certainly works down but then the butt cap also is going to work back toward your center so the clubhead can move down and OUT to the ball. If you take your hands all the way to the ball your have to uncock your wrists UNDER working the sweetspot underneath. Kinda like your left thumb uncocks underneath. If you work the handle back "into your center" the left thumb is going to uncock OUT TO THE PLANE LINE. You have to balance both ends of the club to be on plane. To me Doyle is teaching an underneath uncocking deal which results in too much perverted axis tilt and the right shoulder motion doesn't get far enough forward so he has to make the left wrist the center of the stroke rather than the left shoulder. Hogan and Doyle release the club COMPLETELY different. I'm sure people look at those static pictures of Hogan with acute angles and think "I gotta replicate that picture". Look at where the club is in space. . . you can't play effective golf with that much "angle" left IMO. Trigger delay may look hot . . . but when you pull her skirt up . . . you may get shocked.