[12 piece bucket]

Thanks OB. Your choice of words struck a chord with me. I don't need to force a divot - it is a natural consequence of the appropriate machine setup.

In your first response you mentioned the release type. This is a really foggy area for me. I don't really have a grasp of release types and triggers, let alone know which variations I employ. Do you have any additional comments on the release of irons vs woods.

I can only describe what I feel. For woods, there is no conscious thought. Release just happens. I feel as if I trust centrifugal force and go along for the ride. If I had to guess, I'd say a sweep release. For irons, it seems to be a sharper/crisper/more abrupt delivery as opposed to going along for the ride of the orbiting clubhead. I periodically arrive at impact with an (over) bent right wrist/right arm (having to make a god-awful compensation just to get the clubhead in the vicinity of the ball) And a glancing blow severely right, not a shank but a severely open clubface. That "wilted feeling of a blocked shot"

Again, back to my question. Why so easy with woods and so difficult with irons.

Thanks
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Where would your left elbow be pointing from release to impact? I find that if you "over do" the sexy trigger delay pitch elbow hitting down chasing shaft lean with the irons . . . you never get the butt cap to look "back at your hips" . . . the butt cap looks down the line too long . . . shifts the plane out to the right, opens the face and causes center of your shoulder turn to move backward. Notice where the butt cap is pointing at address as if it were a flash light. It would shine to the left of Peter but still shine on your hips . . as you get into delivery and release you want that light to shine back toward you and not so much "down the line" . . . the butt cap/handle works in toward your center and the clubhead works out to the ball. If you don't let your hands and the handle work back "into you" and they continue out toward the ball too long, you raise up the handle shifting the face vector right (like a side hill lie) and open the face.

So if you had a stick sticking out of that hole in the butt cap, you need to release so that you maintain your left arm wedge alignment . . . you have to move your hands (#3 and #2) in a way that would get that stick to slap you in the ulna bone as you go to full lever extension (fully uncocked) . . . kinda like doing a volley ball dig . . . sounds like your club is never "encountering" the pulley portion of the endless belt . . . look at Hogan and where the "flash light" in the butt cap would be shining . . . also imagine he's popping a volley ball up in frames 3-4-5.

Also note in the first frame . . . there's not this big "Ben Doyle" angle present . . . the the angles are releasing/expanding . . . not holding on.







Note where Doyles flash light would shine!!! . . . Note how he is tilting backward . . . Hogan tilts his shoulders obviously but he is way more forward and MOVING FORWARD . . . not tilting back . . . Doyle's light never shines back at him . . . off plane motion . . . hanging on . . too much shaft lean . . . hook swing . . . maximum participation pattern has given the machine a bad name.