LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Roll - Hinge - Swivel Thread: Roll - Hinge - Swivel View Single Post #2 06-27-2006, 12:09 PM EdZ Lynn Blake Certified Instructor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Linn, OR Posts: 1,645 Originally Posted by bergsey I've been working on my finish swivel lately with good results. I'm still a bit confused about the downstroke roll prior to the hinge action and whether this is something you should 'feel' happening. I find that sometimes my uneducated hands get lazy and return the club hosel first into the ball (ala hitting on the way down). Concentrating on a definate clubface 'closing' roll feeling on the downstroke prevents it but is this a thing that should conciously be happening? BTW - Angled hinges are the ones that i find most likely to end in hosel rockets due to my brain thinking 'no roll' Thanks! The answer depends on the quality of your pivot. A good pivot will 'allow' the roll, but many are not flexible enough, or do not have a solid enough pivot to begin - more of an 'all arms' move at the extreme, or they simply can't turn through well (keep the left foot open, not square). As a step towards learning, begin with as 'full' a roll as you can. You will find that the rotation of your lead forearm will help teach your body to move through. It also helps offset some backswing/plane issues. As you improve, you will notice that the 'rates' of turning match up - same RPM's - A great training aid to teach you this is a figure 8 strap. It will help you learn the feel of pivot and arms/rotation rate through the shot. Doing 'split grip' drills from hip to hip is another good way to learn this. __________________ "Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance" "we have no friends, we have no enemies, we have only teachers" Simplicity buffs, see 5-0, 1-L, 2-0 A and B 10-2-B, 4-D, 6B-1D, 6-B-3-0-1, 6-C-1, 6-E-2 EdZ View Public Profile Send a private message to EdZ Find all posts by EdZ