[neil]

There arm numerous aids some recommended on the site that establish a tight connection of the left arm and shoulder at address. Some of them keep the elbows close together and inside the hips. This appears to help rotate the spine when using a hand controlled pivot and keep the shaft on plane. Jimmy Ballard teaching program is fundametally establihing that position at address and maintaining the triangle through out the swing. Are these aids (figure etc. just to give a feel or should there be a degree of pressure between the left arm and shoulder so that any movement of the arm turns the spine and the elbows in close to each other? Finally isn't this pressure point number 4 in TGM terms?

Dave

I'm not an Instructor Davel but IMO:I don't see why you need a tight connection of left arm and shoulder at address(pp#4 is left arm and chest).It is not correct to try to keep the elbows close together -certainly NOT inside the hips.PP#4 is primarily the swingers feeling of accumulator #4(master accumulator)when the turning torso pins the left arm to the the chest prior to blast off.Just hold a club whilst shifting your weight from foot to foot and turning your shuolders and you will feel it on the backswing . On the forward swing centrifugal force will throw the left arm off the chest.IMO (I would appreciate expert level help for Davel here)you should have your flying wedges intact and with right forearm tracing you will be in good shape-much better shape than trying to keep your elbows together! Davel The reason I got into TGM in the first place was because of .....comments like that .Somebody tell me of someone on tour -ANY TOUR who keeps their elbows together.I once bought a swing jacket for gods sake!!!!I speak as a paying student by the way