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Old 07-31-2010, 05:33 PM
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City,
Thanks for the update. While I was mowing the estate I was wondering if you were able to play today. $44!! You guys play for keeps out there. We're lucky to see $4 change hands around here.
See you Sunday.
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:51 PM
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City,
Thanks for the update. While I was mowing the estate I was wondering if you were able to play today. $44!! You guys play for keeps out there. We're lucky to see $4 change hands around here.
See you Sunday.
The shoulder spasms have been very instructive, Jerry. I had to realize that I couldn't shortcut the biomechanical truths about Alignment G.O.L.F. (The recent film really helped but so does the premium films with Ted Fort and Jeff Hull.)

The plane is the thing. The club must go back on plane using EA and RFT. The pivot must permit the club head to come down on plane. That can only happen if the hips get the heck out of the way, the back shoulder comes down on plane, and EA holds the flying wedges and club face on plane. Planting on the front foot brings the power package intact below the waste and the right forearm extends through the Impact Fix startup, intact, compressing the ball along the chosen target line.

Keeping the alignments intact allows for a very slow "pinch" of the ball off the ground holding the ball on course with backspin. I swung within myself hoping to avoid the spasms and taking extra club to shoot to the middle of greens. No moving pieces, except for the pivot, means less chance of spasm city. No pulls, no pushes, just straight shots.

The stroke was so smooth, I only had trouble picking up the tee or breathing after I struck the ball. Getting into the cart was harder than hitting the ball!

Chips and pitches loaded with EA hold their line even if the distance is not quite right.

The elbow putt method is so smooth that the only question is where will the baseline of the putt be aimed and speed.

We are not building a stroke that "peaks" if we get hot. We are building a consistent, intelligent, dependable stroke that doesn't care about the weather or the opponents. It is a bio-mechanically honest and physics-driven stroke that anyone, almost, can do, given the physical tools necessary to work on plane.

My foursome, and most of the guys at my course who play in the daily game, have simply not grasped
If they knew TGM existed, after seeing such a display, many would line up for lessons!




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Old 08-03-2010, 06:19 PM
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The shoulder spasms have been very instructive, Jerry. I had to realize that I couldn't shortcut the biomechanical truths about Alignment G.O.L.F. (The recent film really helped but so does the premium films with Ted Fort and Jeff Hull.)

The plane is the thing. The club must go back on plane using EA and RFT. The pivot must permit the club head to come down on plane. That can only happen if the hips get the heck out of the way, the back shoulder comes down on plane, and EA holds the flying wedges and club face on plane. Planting on the front foot brings the power package intact below the waste and the right forearm extends through the Impact Fix start-up, intact, compressing the ball along the chosen target line.

Keeping the alignments intact allows for a very slow "pinch" of the ball off the ground holding the ball on course with backspin. I swung within myself hoping to avoid the spasms and taking extra club to shoot to the middle of greens. No moving pieces, except for the pivot, means less chance of spasm city. No pulls, no pushes, just straight shots.

The stroke was so smooth, I only had trouble picking up the tee or breathing after I struck the ball. Getting into the cart was harder than hitting the ball!

Chips and pitches loaded with EA hold their line even if the distance is not quite right.

The elbow putt method is so smooth that the only question is where will the baseline of the putt be aimed and speed.

We are not building a stroke that "peaks" if we get hot. We are building a consistent, intelligent, dependable stroke that doesn't care about the weather or the opponents. It is a bio-mechanically honest and physics-driven stroke that anyone, almost, can do, given the physical tools necessary to work on plane.

My foursome, and most of the guys at my course who play in the daily game, have simply not grasped
If they knew TGM existed, after seeing such a display, many would line up for lessons!




Patrick

Now using this technique with lighter back spasms but looking for a new one (shot 46/46 UGH):


Impact Fix, EA/RFT to Top, Lean left and Throw to Finish via driving pp # 1 and Primary Lever.


No more hooks to middle of green, but I do not really have any power in this technique. It is a very good technique for staying in the middle of fairways and greens so the precision is excellent, but not much power.

On the shorter holes, this is an excellent tq. But as soon as I start searching for power, it is snap hook city. I believe the driving PL disconnects me from the source of my power or I am not keeping my BRW intact. Or, perhaps the driving is just over the top stuff.


When I simply Lean left and use RFT and RF drive, the shots are much more effectively compressed as I hit down more crisply and the ball flies up the mountain then lands softly.
I can "punch down" with my RF (right forearm) while leaning left. It also seems as if that when I really lock out my BRW and drive on my front leg and drive my shoulder down hard, I get the same effect. (Maybe I'm throwing out there, too, but the RW is held so far back that there is nothing to over the top with?) Is that the "underhand throw?"Or, if I maintain the Impact Fix position up the plane and then step and rotate Fix back down, is that "underhand throw?"

How much protection against OTT does a Startup Swivel provide?

Since my right leg is longer then my left by 1.5" + if I maintain my right knee bend throughout RFT and front leg drive, that has to guarantee no OTT? What if I drive my right knee in to Pivot? Wouldn't that send the back shoulder down right away to avoid OTT?

Thoughts?

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Old 08-09-2010, 11:45 PM
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Now using this technique with lighter back spasms but looking for a new one (shot 46/46 UGH):


Impact Fix, EA/RFT to Top, Lean left and Throw to Finish via driving pp # 1 and Primary Lever.


No more hooks to middle of green, but I do not really have any power in this technique. It is a very good technique for staying in the middle of fairways and greens so the precision is excellent, but not much power.

On the shorter holes, this is an excellent tq. But as soon as I start searching for power, it is snap hook city. I believe the driving PL disconnects me from the source of my power or I am not keeping my BRW intact. Or, perhaps the driving is just over the top stuff.


When I simply Lean left and use RFT and RF drive, the shots are much more effectively compressed as I hit down more crisply and the ball flies up the mountain then lands softly.
I can "punch down" with my RF (right forearm) while leaning left. It also seems as if that when I really lock out my BRW and drive on my front leg and drive my shoulder down hard, I get the same effect. (Maybe I'm throwing out there, too, but the RW is held so far back that there is nothing to over the top with?) Is that the "underhand throw?"Or, if I maintain the Impact Fix position up the plane and then step and rotate Fix back down, is that "underhand throw?"

How much protection against OTT does a Startup Swivel provide?

Since my right leg is longer then my left by 1.5" + if I maintain my right knee bend throughout RFT and front leg drive, that has to guarantee no OTT? What if I drive my right knee in to Pivot? Wouldn't that send the back shoulder down right away to avoid OTT?

Thoughts?

Patrick
The hotel room I'm staying in has finally got their router working after being here for two days without it.

I have a lot to get to so I'll have to about throwing the hooker out!

Get your minds out of the gutter!!!

I'm talking about the wonderful work done with me by "the G man" and "KC Masterpiece!"

You see I'm speaking about me. I'have been the hooker of late and managed to get myself in quite a series of compensations which we all know is a bad place.

I arrived in MSP (Minnesota St. Paul) at 10:30am. "the G man," Jerry G, one of the most gracious men in the universe, picked me up at the airport and whisked me away to Greenleaf Country Club where Kevin Carter "KC Masterpiece" helps many, many North woods golfers work with TGM. He is such a good teacher that people are giving him their children for life! That's right! They drive by the club, and get out of the car carrying their children in their arms and beg him to make the young ones into the next Steve Stricker!

At Kevin's club, we got to go down to the "Inner Sanctum" replete with a net, video camera's and lots of multi-colored dowels! Kevin decided to check out my swing and immediately had me flare out both feet to aid my pivot. As he observed my longer right or back leg (+ 1.75"), he pointed out how I was bio-mechanically getting stuck on my right side (the longer leg).
He also observed how far back my ball position was of center.

Kevin was supervising a tournament and Jerry took me to his lovely home to meet the family (beautiful wife Pat amd daughter Jen (and her nice friends) and Henry and Holly, their very cute dogs. You probably don't want to hear about the sumptuous feast we had but you do need to know we watched "Extreme Home Makeover" which was touching and beautiful, and HGTV programs including the "Next Design Star" which allowed us to yell at the TV quite a bit when we saw those terrible designs!

After our fiesta, I went home to practice the major insights Kevin and Jerry had helped me understand! (Try not to laugh Daryl and OB). I did not realize that rolling my hip back put me on plane by moving my back shoulder back!!

One they showed me how easy it was to be on plane, the next real question was what had I been doing? Easy, I had been sliding my hips and not using the "Wild Bill" marching drill. My RFT was funky and I was off plane with it. Once I rolled my back hip back, I was perfectly on plane ON PURPOSE!"

The next question was then logical! How the heck can I consistently come down on plane?

This will be our starting point for the next post.

Goodnight! We golfed a Donald Ross course, today, par 72.8, slope 136 with the excelllent golfer Kevin Sweeny, anothrt TGM adherent who just fished 2nd at his clun championship by one shot and is a very nice guy! I am exhausted!

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Old 08-10-2010, 12:21 AM
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don't blame me. Blame KevCarter. He put you on plane and did the smart stuff. I just drove the car and tried to be agreeable.
Mr. Ross got the best of us today, but it sure was fun and the course is nothing if not extraordinary and classic.
There sure were some good looking swings out there today. Cannot wait for tomorrow!
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:51 AM
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:52 AM
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Kevin knows g.o.l.f., he does great things, I know he has helped my swing and understanding immeasurably. Plus, he is as nice a guy as you will meet. Interesting that guys who follow the good yellow book are as nice as any you will meet in golf. Listen to Lynn's interview with Gothamgolfer for a taste of that. I just purchased an analysis of Steve Elkington's swing from Ben Doyle and he provided hand written, personalized things to focus on for someone he has never met. One thing Homer should be proudest of, how willing those who learned from him are to share with other golfers, often at no personal financial gain.
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Kevin knows g.o.l.f., he does great things, I know he has helped my swing and understanding immeasurably. Plus, he is as nice a guy as you will meet. Interesting that guys who follow the good yellow book are as nice as any you will meet in golf. Listen to Lynn's interview with Gothamgolfer for a taste of that. I just purchased an analysis of Steve Elkington's swing from Ben Doyle and he provided hand written, personalized things to focus on for someone he has never met. One thing Homer should be proudest of, how willing those who learned from him are to share with other golfers, often at no personal financial gain.
Thanks very much guys. I am learning as much from you as you are from me. What a great journey!

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don't blame me. Blame KevCarter. He put you on plane and did the smart stuff. I just drove the car and tried to be agreeable.
Mr. Ross got the best of us today, but it sure was fun and the course is nothing if not extraordinary and classic.
There sure were some good looking swings out there today. Cannot wait for tomorrow!
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world."

Some years ago, never mind how long ago precisely, having only modest resources and no excessively expensive vices (camping and gardening), I thought I would travel about the finely manicured golf courses of the world and challenge myself to enjoy nature and satisfy my competitive urges muted by my football injuries and unfulfilled by the victories I enjoyed in the classroom.

Ahh, Mr. Ross must have giggled in heaven with a cold, sweet, pink lemonade, as he observed the four of us tramping around one of his magnificent courses, The White Bear Yacht Club in the searing heat and humidity. (He might've been really rooting for us, too.)

But I'll wager he had cause to quietly mumble as he witnessed three mere mortals under the excellent tutelage of Mr, Homer Kelly via Mr. Blake and three of his earnest students, Kevin Carter, JerryG, and K.S. hitting tremendously sound shot after shot from the very tips of his magnificent course. Only one of our "Fellowship of the Plane" (sorry J.R.R.) had played there before and yet two of these fine golfers, had they played this course once a month, would be able to shoot very low scores given their awareness of the bio-mechanics and "plane" realities of TGM.

Mr. K.S. came within a few strokes of shooting par and JerryG was not too far behind, even given his advanced age and lack of hair. Kevin could not participate with his broken elbow but he was quietly instructing me to the point where I was shooting straight shot after straight shot from the 2nd hole on.


On Monday, before the round on a nearby driving range, we were treated to free balls (normally $7 a basket) by the most excellent Paul and Greg (manager and friends of Kevin and Jerry who seem to know everyone up here).

Within, 10 balls, Kevin had me striking a 150 yard 8 iron with the most predictable high, 10 yard draw. Not satisfied (though I was elated) Kevin told me my ball was too far back in my stance by about 6". Instantly, my ball flight became more penetrating and uhm, straight. I striped the 8 iron, then the 4 iron, again and again, uhm straight. When I missed two in a row, Kevin told me I was getting stuck on my right side (my longer 1.75" back leg).

Now, we all have our own sense of balance. For me, I pretty much have stood on my right leg mostly, for the last 37 years. My right foot is almost 3/4 of a size larger than my left. And when each of my three children learned how to walk, they all walked like John Wayne until I explained to them that they didn't need to since they had no hip injuries.

In short, unless Kevin had observed me in a trained fashion, I would never be able to feel my "getting stuck" on my right side. Kevin's advice was simple, "get to your left side." I started out simply turning back to the plane with my hip from Impact Fix and stepping down on my left heel. Driving on my left leg was a little scary (I was new to the sensation and I worried about my balance) though terribly effective.

I followed Kevin's plan though I offered one substitution which was to not drive down on my heel, but simply tilt my front shoulder up. My reasoning was that it was less stressful to my body and the differential of my legs was so great that the slightest tilt would send me forward. That motion allowed me to shoot a straight ball all day on the toughest course I ever played!

Now, I am not a long driver or hitter of my longer clubs and K.S. out-drove me by over 70-80 yards each time. Jerry had me by 40- 50 or so, but my ball was straight. Then reality set in. I was so accustomed to playing a draw, that I just kept aiming down the right side of everything! I would just stand there like an idiot waiting for the ball to drift left or curl in to the middle. I was very dumb. Even when I stopped to think about it, I just kept doing it!

However, this must've been very frustrating to Mr. Ross (in heaven or perhaps very encouraging) because I was still managing to par several of the par 5's owing to the fact that my short irons (where I usually take dead aim) were flying straight! The greens were incredibly fast, and the slopes were only missing dinosaurs and windmills! I missed several other pars just because I had no clue as to speed and break. In other words, TGM was helping me hang on while playing a very difficult course and being a short hitter.

"Once more. Say, you are in the country; in some high land of lakes. Take almost any path you please, and ten to one it carries you down in a dale, and leaves you there by a pool in the stream. There is magic in it. Let the most absent- minded of men be plunged in his deepest reveries - stand that man on his legs, set his feet a-going, and he will infallibly lead you to water, if water there be in all that region. Should you ever be athirst in the great American desert, try this experiment, if your caravan happen to be supplied with a metaphysical professor. Yes, as every one knows, meditation and water are wedded for ever. ("Moby Dick" p.2) "

Say you are on a golf course. Take any one you please. There is magic in it. Stand a person on their legs, even artificial ones owned by our brave soldiers, and set their clubs aswinging and they will all will benefit from TGM. Should your golf game be suffering and you be thirsting for insight, get yourself to Lynn Blake or one of his personally trained golfers like Kevin, Jerry or K.S or this forum. As everyone knows, TGM and golf are wedded forever.

More domani!

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Old 08-11-2010, 11:56 AM
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Great story Patrick, thanks. So those birds you saw were really mosquitos?


"Keep it come'n on , keep it......." K. C. and the sunshine band ladies and gentlemen.

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