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The PGA Championship / August 7-10, 2008

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Old 08-12-2008, 08:01 PM
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Are these videos something that you would like to continue seeing? Yes!
Are they interesting to watch and do you learn anything from them? Very much!
Do you get the same kind of behind the scenes video from somewhere else? No.
Would you recommend these to friends? If not, why not? Absolutely --- and I will if you'd like to.
Are you nervous about posting? N-n-n-n-no...
Are you waiting for someone else to express a point of view you agree with so you don't have to post? No.
Are we missing something or doing something wrong? You might retitle the thread to something like, "Must See Video: Inside the ropes at the PGA Championship with Brian Gay & Lynn Blake!" I think this will better indicate what is inside.
What can we do better? Doing great, imo.
What would you like to see? I could watch a lot of practice range video from the PGA Tour.
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:26 PM
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Fun and informative videos my son and I both enjoyed watching them. Thanks!
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:05 PM
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Videos are well worth watching, especially 3 & 4 in the practice round. I downloaded them to my desktop---took a while to do it.

If you haven't taken the time........do yourself a favor and watch them.

You'll pick up a different style of bunker technique from one of the very best on the PGA Tour.

Also, around the greens chipping where "quiet" is really emphasized.

You'll get to see how truly difficult #8 was and how slippery the slope was in front.

And some up close video of one of the Tour's best putters.


Interesting to see how narrow Brian's stance is.

Also, interesting to note that his left hand is just over the end of the grip.

And great narrative from Lynn, of course.

This kind of stuff is "worth it's weight in gold", man....thanks so much for taking the time to do all the work I know was required to get these videos up.

And thanks to Brian & Kipper for letting us "in."

Thanks, Asleep, for your insights. This is the direction I had hoped this thread would take.

As you have said, there is much "gold" in 'them thar hills', but despite the many hundreds of video views (and they are accelerating), the silence thus far has been deafening. Lurking is fine, but if we all just lurk, then . . .

What's the point?

If 'views' were our only concern, we would have popped these up on YouTube and walked away.

We are here for a purpose. Anybody want to discuss the procedures of one of the world's greatest scramblers -- http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/xm.html?130 -- as demonstrated in the video of his putting, chip shots, pitch shots, 'rough' pitches and sand shots? A man who, in one of the strongest fields of the year, would four days later finish T-20 in the Championship?

How about the spin reducing Power Draw?

Or course strategy, like learning to leave the ball below the hole on lightning fast and sloping greens, and techniques to deal with it when you don't?

C'mon guys. You want an interesting thread? You gotta participate!

Take responsibility and help make it happen.

LBG ain't totally for free.

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Old 08-12-2008, 11:36 PM
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...How about the spin reducing Power Draw?...
Okay, I'll start.

...at 18'32" in the second video: The Practice Tee http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...2/90thPGA2.wmv

Brian is using a slightly rotated plane line to get what seemed to be to be a tumbling draw.

I think I heard he "pulled his right foot left [back?] one inch?" to get this.

I picked up that Brian thought he was creating less spin with this setup and that he may need a driver with less spin???


Question: I don't understand what Brian is actually doing with his right foot or how he creates less spin on a right to left shot -- the spin reducing Power Draw?

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Old 08-17-2008, 08:26 PM
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Not sure why there has been no response to your question. I would think he is reducing the effective loft which would reduce the ball spin rate. It would be informative if the effect on his launch angle was known. Addition spin could give him more carry_do we know his ball speed? OTOH, I would think closing the plane line and the stance line would be a correction for a pull_rotate the machine.

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:18 PM
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Brian is using a slightly rotated plane line to get what seemed to be to be a tumbling draw.
Right you are, asleep. The Closed Plane Line -- not merely a Closed Stance -- causes the Clubhead to approach the Ball more from the 'inside' the Target Line. When you reduce the Downward (but not the Outward) element of the Three-Dimensional Downstroke, you automatically produce a shot with less spin.

However, care must be taken not to exaggerate the action, else the effort can quickly degenerate into a smothered Hook and a consequent loss in both Power and Accuracy.

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Old 08-18-2008, 01:08 AM
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Sorry for not joining earlier, been preparing a junior for his first, of many to come, europeantour tournament, which by the way, the dane Kjeldsen had a top 10

Brian had a closed plane line at the driving range, but on one of the teeshots he did not and still produced the draw.

Was that on purpose or a "forgot to"?




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Old 08-18-2008, 05:31 AM
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Many thanks...
These videos are very real and informative. Like everyone else seems to be I'm very grateful and hope there will be more to come. Thanks Yoda!

I'm also aware how much effort this takes so we can't expect an unreasonable amount. I've taken similar videos before and it is no small task. I remember I spent most of the time trying to be respectful and quiet and that I saw very little golf 'live' because I had to wait til I got home to see any of what I'd shot!

I especially liked how Elk was really getting a feel for his grip before hitting any shots. It's relevant for me at the moment because I'm trying to feel a lot more skin on the grip without any excess tension.

It never ceases to amaze me how smooth and 'easy' Ernie warms up for such a 'big' guy. Just out of interest, how does his wrist action stack up in a TGM analysis? From that angle it looked like he loses his angles very quickly. He has always had a very prominent and active release. He may have just been doing that for the gentle little shots he was playing though.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:15 AM
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The Big Easy's Wrist Action And Release
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These videos are very real and informative. Like everyone else seems to be I'm very grateful and hope there will be more to come. Thanks Yoda!

. . . . .

It never ceases to amaze me how smooth and 'easy' Ernie warms up for such a 'big' guy. Just out of interest, how does his wrist action stack up in a TGM analysis? From that angle it looked like he loses his angles very quickly.
Thanks for your appreciative comments, mrose. They encourage us!

Regarding Ernie, he uses the Swinger's Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) and when seeking Maximum Velocity Power (6-C-2-A) and Maximum Trigger Delay (6-C-2-C), he uses the Automatic Snap Release (10-24-E).

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Brian had a closed plane line at the driving range, but on one of the teeshots he did not and still produced the draw.
Regardless of Stance Line, the shot that starts right and then Draws requires a Closed Plane Line (10-5-E). As stated in my post #12 above, Brian prefers to play the shot (with its Closed Plane Line) from a Square (or even Open) Stance. However, this particular week he was having trouble consistently getting the desired flight without closing the Stance Line as well.

This Stance helps clear the Right Hip in both directions and thus promotes a true Inside-Out Stroke and not just the normal Inside-Out Impact (2-J-2). So, that's the Combination (7-5 / 10-5-0) we worked on.
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