With a hitting motion on a pitch shot, should the elbow go infront of the hip and would this apply to the full swing with a wedge?
There are three elbow locations, at the side (punch) deep in front (pitch) and behind the shaft (push). A hitter would use punch or push for all types of shots. A hitters motion is a driving right arm to straight through the ball so either elbow position works.
Pitch elbow is a maximum participation late release for swingers.
A golfer can use the Magic of the Right Forearm (7-3) to execute any short game shot.....any right arm motion....all three hinges....cut shot, lob shot or low runner. Reduce it to the right forearm and you can minimize your thinking about technique and put your energy into making creative short game shots.
I like to "Hit" shorter shots with my right elbow almost sliding up and down my ribcage. I suppose it's a Punch elbow. With a wedge, same thing. There's just more overall right forearm travel in the backstroke.
Thanks for all of the answers everyone, it will helpa lot at my next range sesion.
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There are three elbow locations, at the side (punch) deep in front (pitch) and behind the shaft (push). A hitter would use punch or push for all types of shots. A hitters motion is a driving right arm to straight through the ball so either elbow position works.
Pitch elbow is a maximum participation late release for swingers.
A short video of this would be valuable. I don't believe I have ever seen anyone demonstrate this.
The video I found helpful for figuring out what to do with the elbow appears as the 2nd video series, "The Preshot Routine". (the 2nd video of the series featuring Ted Fort). About 1/3 through this video, Ted demonstrates his piston-like preswing "waggle". As he thrusts his forearm forward, the elbow extends toward the middle of his stomach. Independently positioning my elbow farther forward is no longer required because the elbow ends up in the right position. (Maybe that is part of the magic of the right forearm?)
One might think that the time investment to hit 6,000 chips would not be fully rewarded by the modest effect on ones handicap of more accurate chipping. But the employment of my new forearm thrust in my full motion swings is the real reward. I can't believe how once I figured out the correct forearm thrust move for my chips, almost instantly my full motion hitting was dramatically improved. I am licking my chops, waiting for this golf season to begin because the more accurate and longer hitting I am doing on the range, must eventually translate to significantly lower scores.
The video I found helpful for figuring out what to do with the elbow appears as the 2nd video series, "The Preshot Routine". (the 2nd video of the series featuring Ted Fort). About 1/3 through this video, Ted demonstrates his piston-like preswing "waggle". As he thrusts his forearm forward, the elbow extends toward the middle of his stomach. Independently positioning my elbow farther forward is no longer required because the elbow ends up in the right position. (Maybe that is part of the magic of the right forearm?)
One might think that the time investment to hit 6,000 chips would not be fully rewarded by the modest effect on ones handicap of more accurate chipping. But the employment of my new forearm thrust in my full motion swings is the real reward. I can't believe how once I figured out the correct forearm thrust move for my chips, almost instantly my full motion hitting was dramatically improved. I am licking my chops, waiting for this golf season to begin because the more accurate and longer hitting I am doing on the range, must eventually translate to significantly lower scores.
Yep, I know what you mean, I have been working alot on PP3 with basic motion and some small acquired, and building pressure in it and found great progress filtering from chips to full swing too.
I haven't seen anyone discuss elbow positions and think it might be an interesting topic that hasn't been discussed yet, though.
If you thrust your forearm at the ball properly, while keeping your hands forward of the ball at impact, I believe the "magic of the right forearm" locates precisely the right elbow position automatically.
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